Improving English: (only serious stuff allowed) read, write, comment and discuss....

[songoku_emumania]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

Here is another expression that intrigues me.

as i computer technician.. i am always in contact with people having trouble with their computers

and there's an expression that people use.. that it's hard for me figure out why they use it that way..

so here's the expression..

yeah, my computer was working fine but now it won't turn on

or my computer won't recognize the hard drive.. or my computer won't pick up my ipod.. etc, etc..

it means.. that the issue the are having with their computer is occurring at that moment which means, present.. so i just don't get why do they use.. won't.. instead of doesn't

i mean the most logic translation i can think of is.
as an example:

my computer won't turn on = mi computadora no va a encender

my computer doesn't turn on= mi computadora no enciende

but the first one is what people use even though it doesn't look like being present..

i don't know what do u think?

well I lived for around 9 years in the US and its just the way they speak XD , I never actually felt it was wrong until you brought it up.

Its like when you tell someone to do something and they say "I wont" , well people tell the computer tu turn on by pressing the "on" button and the computer will not turn on .
Its a bit hard to explain I guess its just the way people speak or because it just sounds right...

[kamikaze27]

Nice thread...
I need more vocabulary, fluentle, i will hope learnd more about english...in this thread..

[ariellopezgt]

Excelent idea! I guess most common problem when people learns a different language is grammar.

We need an English subsection at VM!

[lexmanz]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

Here is another expression that intrigues me.

as i computer technician.. i am always in contact with people having trouble with their computers

and there's an expression that people use.. that it's hard for me figure out why they use it that way..

so here's the expression..

yeah, my computer was working fine but now it won't turn on

or my computer won't recognize the hard drive.. or my computer won't pick up my ipod.. etc, etc..

it means.. that the issue the are having with their computer is occurring at that moment which means, present.. so i just don't get why do they use.. won't.. instead of doesn't

i mean the most logic translation i can think of is.
as an example:

my computer won't turn on = mi computadora no va a encender

my computer doesn't turn on= mi computadora no enciende

but the first one is what people use even though it doesn't look like being present..

i don't know what do u think?

I think it´s just their way to say it (english speakers). I´m sure we (spanish speakers) make mistakes like that... I can´t come up with a good one right now, but for example:
Good morning = Buen día.....that´s correct; but we all say: Buenos días... my point is that instead of referring only to the current morning, we refer to several mornings... I think that´s wrong, but we all say it like that... so I think it´s only a common expression.

[lexmanz]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

Business English Idioms

Let's talk about business English idioms and what they mean.

Here's the first one: a ballpark figure.

Can you give us a ballpark figure? Can you give us an estimate?

Here's another way to use "ballpark".

Yes, that price is definitely in the ballpark. Let's set up a time to meet so that we can talk about this in more detail.

ballpark - This refers to a baseball park. If a price, a number, or a quantity is "in the ballpark", it is within one's requirements.





I think it's about time we raised the bar around here.

raise the bar - raise the standards for good work and achievement





Here's another one u might heard some one say, "Come on, people! Let's turn up the volume here."

He meant let's start making more phone calls and making some sales.






I can't believe it. Joe really dropped the ball on the New Bridge Electronics deal. I thought it was a sure thing.

drop the ball - be responsible for a failure, failed effort, or failed attempt






bang for the buck

MEANING: value for the money spent


EXAMPLE:

We were able to get a big bang for our buck when we advertised on the Internet.







"His handshake is like a wet jellyfish."
He is weak and indecisive. He's not the type of person you can trust.

Great stuff man!!!

[RealBot]

Iniciado por ραтzιιε ραтz™

I hope that now people take this seriously!!!!! great idea!!!

congrats for your prom patz, and yes, I'm her boyfriend boyfriend xD

[maligno]

For those who want to practice on sundays with us, all this information will be really useful.

Do not forget to meet us tomorrow morning at San Carlos University, in front of Rectoría Building, at 9:00.

P. S: Irombarsa, thanks for the thread, dude. The other one had become a total waste of time, since stupid, senseless posts were allowed.

P. S. 2: USAC's free WiFi... asdfñlkjasdfñ...

[IROMBARSA]

Iniciado por RealBot

congrats for your prom patz, and yes, I'm her boyfriend boyfriend xD

really? u wish....

[IROMBARSA]

Iniciado por moncho

For those who want to practice on sundays with us, all this information will be really useful.

Do not forget to reach us tomorrow morning at San Carlos University, in front of Rectoría Building, at 9:00.

P. S: Irombarsa, thanks for the thread, dude. The other one had become a total waist of time, since stupid, senseless posts were allowed.

P. S. 2: USAC's free WiFi... asdfñlkjasdfñ...

meet
waste you're welcome..

[maligno]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

meet
waste you're welcome..

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:monchoignorant: aañlksdhgñlafkha...

P. D: Fuck Velmax!

[maligno]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

really? u wish....

With that nickname... Don't think so. But... who knows...

[IROMBARSA]

Iniciado por moncho

With that nickname... Don't thing so. But... who knows...

her brain had to be really messed up.. to be the girlfriend of this fool which i don't think is the case..

[maligno]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

her brain had to be really messed up.. to be the girlfriend of this fool which i don't think is the case..

Weird things use to happen in this strange society, my friend. This could be one of those particular, unexplainable cases. Although... we won't find out but tomorrow morning, when she arrives to San Carlos University... I hope.

P. S: It is 'San Carlos University'...

[IROMBARSA]

Iniciado por moncho

Weird things use to happen in this strange society, my friend. This could be one of those particular, unexplainable cases. Although... we won't find out but tomorrow morning, when she arrives to San Carlos University... I hope.

P. S: It is 'San Carlos University'...

This humble building is where Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala, USAC, was founded as part of Francisco Marroquí*n’s wish and will. The USAC was the third university founded in the American continent, right after Mexico’s and Peru’s universities. It was founded by the name of Colegio Mayor de Santo Tomás, the School of Saint Thomas, on 1562 and it was officially declared a university on January 31st, 1676 by royal command of King Charles II of Spain.
Nowadays, the Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala is considered one of the best public universities in Central America. It is the only public university in the country


Universidad de San Carlos (USAC)
Agreement | Proposal (in Spanish)

1. Thematic Network: Invasive Species
2. Summary: During 6 years of sampling (2003-2008), with financed by various national institutions, floral visitors of the group insects were collected in different types of ecosystems in Guatemala. The sites were systematic sampling was carried out are: 1) Esquipulas Chiquimula, in the El Salvador and Honduras border; 2) The semiarid forest of Guatemala (El progreso and Zacapa); 3) The Lachua Lagoon National park; 4) The Botanical Garden, in Guatemala City. Moreover, we have carried out sporadic sampling throughout the country, collecting bees of the Meliponini tribe, which are important for honey production and play an important role in the pollination of tropical forests. We have a total of 7,934 records of pollinating bees and their food plant. This information, once digitized and made available to Guatemalan society, will be very important for decision making and its use in economic activities.

3. Period: 10 months (August 24, 2009 to June 24, 2010)
4. Amount: US Dollars 10,000
5. Status: In Progress
6. Coordinator: Maria Eunice Enriquez Cotton



Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala is one of the 9000 Universities, reviewed and sorted by web popularity ranking, included in the 4icu.org.


ENOUGH?

[anakin75]

thanks for the thread, it will helpful for everyone, but it will require that people like you Ironbarsa, should be reviewing our post constantly

I'll try to aswer the "eat '" issue...
rds

[maligno]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

This humble building is where Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala, USAC, was founded as part of Francisco Marroquí*n’s wish and will. The USAC was the third university founded in the American continent, right after Mexico’s and Peru’s universities. It was founded by the name of Colegio Mayor de Santo Tomás, the School of Saint Thomas, on 1562 and it was officially declared a university on January 31st, 1676 by royal command of King Charles II of Spain.
Nowadays, the Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala is considered one of the best public universities in Central America. It is the only public university in the country


Universidad de San Carlos (USAC)
Agreement | Proposal (in Spanish)

1. Thematic Network: Invasive Species
2. Summary: During 6 years of sampling (2003-2008), with financed by various national institutions, floral visitors of the group insects were collected in different types of ecosystems in Guatemala. The sites were systematic sampling was carried out are: 1) Esquipulas Chiquimula, in the El Salvador and Honduras border; 2) The semiarid forest of Guatemala (El progreso and Zacapa); 3) The Lachua Lagoon National park; 4) The Botanical Garden, in Guatemala City. Moreover, we have carried out sporadic sampling throughout the country, collecting bees of the Meliponini tribe, which are important for honey production and play an important role in the pollination of tropical forests. We have a total of 7,934 records of pollinating bees and their food plant. This information, once digitized and made available to Guatemalan society, will be very important for decision making and its use in economic activities.

3. Period: 10 months (August 24, 2009 to June 24, 2010)
4. Amount: US Dollars 10,000
5. Status: In Progress
6. Coordinator: Maria Eunice Enriquez Cotton



Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala is one of the 9000 Universities, reviewed and sorted by web popularity ranking, included in the 4icu.org.


ENOUGH?

Fuck... you won. I can't defeat that.

Thanks for the data, man.

[RealBot]

Iniciado por IROMBARSA

really? u wish....

I ain't talking to you moddafucka askdljfaksdjfasd

and I'm not saying that I'm Patz' boyfriend, it was something that I was telling to her, because she knows my Girlfriend

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