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Guayo
04-Jun-2006, 16:35
General Info
What engine is in my civic/honda?
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99764 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99764)

How much does my car weigh?
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198926 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198926)
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205703 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205703)

Getting Started
What are "bolt-ons"?
Boltons are the most common and easily installed engine modifications which are the intake, header and exhaust (also referred to as i/h/e). These bolt-ons essentially help the engine to breath better which should result in more power being transmitted to the wheels. On average people see around 10whp with typical bolt-ons (i/h/e), so don't be fooled by many manufacturers claims of 25+hp from a single bolt-on.

What is the best intake?
There is no real answer to this question. The test methods that each companies uses to generate their hp figures is questionable. Here is some good reading on the more commonly available intakes :
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml (http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml)

What is the best exhaust
Again, there is no real answer to this question. What exhaust works best depends on your setup and where you want your power to be made. In many cases the only difference between the exhausts is sound and looks. Most of the common import exhausts produce similar power gains.
http://www.tprmag.com/issue/3/3_exhausts.shtml (http://www.tprmag.com/issue/3/3_exhausts.shtml)

I do not think that the magnaflow exhaust was part of their tests, but it is a quality unit and rather inexpensive. It can be found at http://www.magnaflow.com/ (http://www.magnaflow.com/) and http://www.hottexhaust.com/ (http://www.hottexhaust.com/) .

What exhaust is the quietest?
The Apexi World Sport (http://www.apexi.com/) and RS*R Ex-Mag (http://www.rs-r.com/) are considered to be 2 of the quietest aftermarket cat-back exhausts available for our little cars.

What is the best header?
Again, no real cut-and-dry answer here. You have to determine which header best suits your needs/goals. Many consider the DC Sports 4-2-1 to be a quality unit. It is not the best, and not the worst, but it is a good street performer. You can find more in depth review of headers here :
http://www.hadamotorsport.com/tech/review/dsemc/index.html (http://www.hadamotorsport.com/tech/review/dsemc/index.html)


Engine Modifications
How do I tell what Engine I have?
The engine code (i.e. D16Y8, D15B2, etc.) are stamped right on the engine block. Simply pop the hood of your car and look where the head of the engine meets the block, just under the valve cover. Look over to the left side of the front of the block and you will see a flat spot with the engine code stamped there. If you had a D16Z6, then the "D" would indicate a D-Series engine, the "16" would indicate a 1.6L engine, and the "Z6" would indicate which engine in the D-Series family.

What are my engines specs?
Engine specs such as stroke, bore, etc are available at numerous resources on the web. You can simply type in your engine code (i.e. D16Y8) into any search such as http://www.google.com/ (http://www.google.com/) . Here is an excellent resource available here on SHO :
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125367 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125367)

What is a mini-me?
A mini-me or frankenstein motor is where you swap the head from one engine onto the block of another. This is typically done using a vtec head such as that from the d16z6 (92-95 ex/si) or d16y8 (96-00 ex). The addition of the vtec head (along with other components such as ecu/vtec solenoid, etc.) adds vtec to the motor which is typically around another 20hp. The size of the combustion chamber with the d16y8 head is smaller than that of any other d16 head so swapping it onto another block can also result in raised compression of the new motor which will also help power output. It is often recommended that when doing the mini-me, you also swap in the transmission from the d16z6 or d16y8 to get the most benefit from the new setup.
www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144200 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144200)
http://faq.ef-honda.com/index.php?sid=25197&aktion=artikel&rubrik=004&id=22&lang=en (http://faq.ef-honda.com/index.php?sid=25197&aktion=artikel&rubrik=004&id=22&lang=en)
http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32971 (http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32971)
http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3097 (http://www.d-series.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3097)

What is headwork or pnp or port and polish?
As many will tell you, the secret to making big power in our little engines is in the head. The engine is essentially an air pump and the better quality air you can get flowing through the head and engine, the more power you will make. The process of porting is to remove material from the head that is obstructing airflow. This is typically done in the intake ports, exhaust ports, combustion chamber and valve seats. Keep in mind that more air does not mean more power, you have to achieve the right balance between amount of air and air velocity, so don't be fooled by flowbench numbers alone as higher cfm doesn't translate to more power. You can find more info available at some of the following resources :

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127827 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127827)
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d16a_head/ (http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d16a_head/)
http://www.sa-motorsports.com/diyport.htm (http://www.sa-motorsports.com/diyport.htm)
http://pub143.ezboard.com/fhondadseriesfrm6.showMessage?topicID=672.topic (http://pub143.ezboard.com/fhondadseriesfrm6.showMessage?topicID=672.topic)
http://nicotine.golden.net/D-Series/Porting/ (http://nicotine.golden.net/D-Series/Porting/)

Where can I get my head ported?
This is not a recommendation, but simply a list of companies that offer head porting services :

http://www.exospeed.com/ (http://www.exospeed.com/) (porting done in conjunction with RS machines)
http://www.hondaraceengines.com/ (http://www.hondaraceengines.com/)
http://www.alaniztechnologies.com/ (http://www.alaniztechnologies.com/)
http://www.portflow.com/ (http://www.portflow.com/)
http://www.extrudehone.com/ (http://www.extrudehone.com/)

What is the best camshaft?
Again, there is no best camshaft. You have to choose the best one for your application. Also keep in mind that if you have plans to auto-x or road race that an upgraded camshaft may not be legal in the class that you plan to compete in. More info on camshafts is available here :
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153746 (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153746)


Engine Management

SHO Honda ECU Tuning Thread (http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231502)

What is obd1, obd2, obd2b, etc.?
OBD = On-Board Diagnostics.
92-95 Hondas are obd1
96-98 Hondas are obd2
98-00 Hondas are obd2b
Would be lovely if some would do a writeup or provide a link to a good resource. for this one.

What ecu do I have?
D16Y8 - P2P (comes in an obd2 and obd2b variety)
D16Z6 - P28
D16Y7 - P2E

Should I Chip my ecu?
If you have an obd-2 (96-00) then you can not chip your ecu. However there are a few places that will reprogram an obd2 ecu ( http://www.ericksracing.com/ (http://www.ericksracing.com/) ). Unfortunately no one can reprogram an obd2b ecu. There are plenty of places that you can find chips/programs for your obd1 ecu (jet, skunk2, etc.) I wouldn't recommend any of them as they are generic chips that do not take into account the actual modifications that you have done to your vehicle. If you want to chip your obd1 ecu, then get a custom chip with a program that was created for your vehicle. Please read the engine modification section of the faq for info in chips that raise or remove your engines redline or rev-limiter.

How can I reprogram my stock ECU?
OBD2b ecus can not be reprogrammed. This is not a recommendation, but simply a list of resources for reprogramming your ecu, or doint a custom setup:
http://www.pgmfi.org/ (http://www.pgmfi.org/) (look for uberdata)
http://www.turboedit.org/ (http://www.turboedit.org/)
http://www.ghettodyne.com/ (http://www.ghettodyne.com/)
http://www.ericksracing.com/ (http://www.ericksracing.com/)
http://www.hyperducktuning.com/ (http://www.hyperducktuning.com/)

What is hondata?
Hondata (http://www.hondata.com/) is one of the many aftermarket engine management systems such as the AEM EMS, Apexi PowerFC, Accel DFI, etc. These are complete engine management systems that can replace your ecu. The hondata is the cheapest, but the others are programmable on the fly via a laptop whereas you have to burn a new chip for the hondata. The downside of hondata is that it requires that you are obd-1, whereas the other systems are available for obd2 vehicles. It is illegal to convert an obd2 vehicle to an obd1 vehicle and depending on your area, they may actually test factory equipped obd2 vehicles by connecting to the obd2 service port, so you will fail inspection if you have converted to obd1.

How is the AFC different from hondata?
The Apexi V-AFC/S-AFC are piggybacks onto the factory ecu. They are used to make fuel adjustments and are often used in mild turbo setups. However the AFC is not able to control the spark which is where it really falls short of hondata and other engine management systems. Also if you have an obd1 vehicle, then go ahead and do it right with hondata. It is not much more expensive than the AFC.

kinetic
04-Jun-2006, 17:46
buenísima forma de abrir la sección : ok: (fuck, ya no hay caritas :maleado: )

Bullitt
04-Jun-2006, 17:49
buenísima forma de abrir la sección : ok: (fuck, ya no hay caritas :maleado: )

no hay caritas por el momento.

Esperese hombre!!!!

Mhernandez
04-Jun-2006, 18:32
lo mejor jejejeje

wagner
04-Jun-2006, 18:42
hey,

que opinion teneis del nuevo honda civic???

mi jefe ya le hecho el ojo

Guayo
04-Jun-2006, 19:02
buenísima forma de abrir la sección : ok: (fuck, ya no hay caritas :maleado: )

Of course, para mientras, smilie hondero aunque sea como adjunto.

rvm
04-Jun-2006, 19:05
buena info,

yo en lo personal, opino que el mejor intake es el original, y si se lo cambio seria solo por un cold air intake, si no , no.

Moshé
04-Jun-2006, 19:05
buenisima informacion, :si:

nismo240sx
05-Jun-2006, 01:04
buena info,

yo en lo personal, opino que el mejor intake es el original, y si se lo cambio seria solo por un cold air intake, si no , no.

x 2.

bye

POWERB16
05-Jun-2006, 21:18
muy buena informacion, valla ya me hasia falta aprender mas sobre hondas

DoNkEy
05-Jun-2006, 21:49
Solo respondiendo a unas preguntas que todo hondero tiene:

1.- Las calcos TypeR, Matrix, TypeX o GReddy :nono: incrementan el caballaje, a menos que realmente tengan implementos de esta marca.

2.-El neón en los laterales :nono: mejora la suspensión del carro, aunque no se aplica unicamente a honderos veo que es una tendencia.

3.- Así ya fuera de pajas, no es necesario que un Honda haga bulla... pooorfa estamos HARTOS de honderos q vuelan a la verga el silenciador y ya creen q son vtecosos :yano:

4.- Un mofle mas grande :nono: significa mayor desempeño!!! (gracias por recordarmelo richigt jaja)

5.- Si hombre si, el "filtro y la pipa" ayudan pero no hacen milagros.

Y esto lo digo 100% en serio sin ganas de ofender!
!!UN HONDA NO TIENE POR QUE SER MUCO!!



P.D.: Todas estas recomendaciónes han sido previamente comprobadas por Bullit, cualquier reclamo avocarse con el miembro en cuestión.

***editado para incluir la información proporcionada por richigt :oscar:

richigt
05-Jun-2006, 22:12
Solo respondiendo a unas preguntas que todo hondero tiene:

1.- Las calcos TypeR, Matrix, TypeX o GReddy :nono: incrementan el caballaje, a menos que realmente tengan implementos de esta marca.

2.-El neón en los laterales :nono: mejora la suspensión del carro, aunque no se aplica unicamente a honderos veo que es una tendencia.

3.- Así ya fuera de pajas, no es necesario que un Honda haga bulla... pooorfa estamos HARTOS de honderos q vuelan a la verga el silenciador y ya creen q son vtecosos :yano:

4.- Si hombre si, el "filtro y la pipa" ayudan pero no hacen milagros.

Y esto lo digo 100% en serio sin ganas de ofender!
!!UN HONDA NO TIENE POR QUE SER MUCO!!



P.D.: Todas estas recomendaciónes han sido previamente comprobadas por Bullit, cualquier reclamo avocarse con el miembro en cuestión.

Te falto decir: No es lo mismo un mofle BORLA que uno de la Bolivar, aunque se miren igual, no van a sonar igual. Y: "a mayor tamaño de mofle, no necesariamente mejora el desempeño". Pero esto puede ser aplicado casi para cualquier carro.

Bullitt
05-Jun-2006, 22:27
Solo respondiendo a unas preguntas que todo hondero tiene:

1.- Las calcos TypeR, Matrix, TypeX o GReddy :nono: incrementan el caballaje, a menos que realmente tengan implementos de esta marca.

2.-El neón en los laterales :nono: mejora la suspensión del carro, aunque no se aplica unicamente a honderos veo que es una tendencia.

3.- Así ya fuera de pajas, no es necesario que un Honda haga bulla... pooorfa estamos HARTOS de honderos q vuelan a la verga el silenciador y ya creen q son vtecosos :yano:

4.- Un mofle mas grande :nono: significa mayor desempeño!!! (gracias por recordarmelo richigt jaja)

5.- Si hombre si, el "filtro y la pipa" ayudan pero no hacen milagros.

Y esto lo digo 100% en serio sin ganas de ofender!
!!UN HONDA NO TIENE POR QUE SER MUCO!!



P.D.: Todas estas recomendaciónes han sido previamente comprobadas por Bullit, cualquier reclamo avocarse con el miembro en cuestión.

***editado para incluir la información proporcionada por richigt :oscar:

slap, owned tuyo tengo en mi compu a dispocision...

Eurolover
06-Jun-2006, 09:46
buen thread :si:

Chileno
06-Jun-2006, 09:50
mmmm yo solo necesito algunas chivitas mas, moflle, headers, y una reprogramacion de mi ecu... alo criss!!!!! y de ahi nada mas, por que solo lo quiero para diario y no una bestia

NeoGT
06-Jun-2006, 10:04
:adorar: buena info vos Guayo :si: solo me quedo la duda.. la linea 88-91 que son ?? ODB1 o ODB0 ??? a esas ecu's no se les puede meter mano?? (alooo crisaguilar)

Guayo
06-Jun-2006, 10:41
Las de la generación 88-91 son OBD0. En cuanto a qué tan trasteables son, depende de la ECU, por ejemplo las nuestras (PM5), que son para inyección de doble punto, no sirven casi para nada y hay que cambiarlas para pasar a multipunto.

Sin embargo otras que ya son MPFI, se pueden chipear e incluso parece que trastear para Vtec, pero ya sabes que quien te puede dar toda la información es crisaguilar.

Te dejo estos datos que pueden ser de interés:

Las ECUs Honda van por generaciones, en las cuales usan diferentes conectores. En la imagen, una torre de ECUs, estando la generación más nueva en la cima y la más vieja en la base.
http://www.hondata.com/images/stackof4ecus.jpg
OBD IIb (left 3 plugs used)
OBD II ECU
OBD I ECU
OBD 0 (JDM PR3 and PWO)

Números de parte de ECU

Todas las ECUs Honda tienen un número de parte que está localizado en el lado de la ECU and dentro de la ECU en el conector. e.g. 37820-P72-A01

El número de parte consta de tres componentes:

Número de parte de la ECU Honda, que es siempre 37820
Tres caracteres (que varían según el modelo de carro/motor). e.g P72
Tres caracteres (los cuales son la revisión de la ECU) e.g. A01Los tres caracteres de enmedio son los usualmente utilizados para identificar qué ECU es. Diferentes generaciones de ECUs pueden usar los mismos caracteres. e.g. a P72 OBD I ECU es diferente de una P72 OBD II ECU. Aquí está una lista de las ECUs más comunes:

PG7 : 86-89 Integra (86-87 vac advance, 88-89 electronic advance)
PM5 : 88-91 Civic/CRX DX
PM6 : 88-91 Civic/CRX SOHC Si
PM7 : 89-91 DOHC ZC (JDM 'EF' ECU)
PM8 : 88-91 CRX HF
PR2 : 89-91 ZC (Euro)
PR3 : 89-91 JDM B16A EF8/9
PR3 -J00 or J51 : 92 JDM Integra B16A EF8/9
PW0 : 89-91 JDM B16A EF8/9 DA6-XSi
PR4 : 90-91 Integra LS/GS
PS9 : 88-91 4 door Civic EX Auto
P05 : 92-95 OBD-1 Civic CX
P06 : 92-95 OBD-1 Civic DX
P07 : 92-95 OBD-1 Civic VX
P08 : 92-95 OBD-1 Civic D15 JDM
P0A : 94-95 OBD-1 Accord EX
P13 : 93-95 OBD-1 Prelude Vtec
P14 : 93-95 OBD-1 Prelude Si (non Vtec)
P27 : 92-95 OBD-1 EG JDM Civic 1600 sohc
P28 : 92-95 OBD-1 Civic Si/Ex
P30 : 92-95 OBD-1 DelSol DOHC Vtec Si/EG SiR
P54-G31 : 1997 Honda Accord 1.8 LS
P61 : 92-93 OBD-1 Integra GSR
P72 : 94-95 OBD-1 Integra GSR
P72 : 96-00 OBD-2 Integra GSR
P73 : 96-00 OBD-2 Integra Type-R (JDM & USDM)
P74/75: 92-95 OBD-1 Integra LS/GS
P75 : 96-00 OBD-2 Integra LS/GS
P2N : 96+ OBD-2 Civic HX Coupe
P2P : 96+ OBD-2 Civic EX Coupe
P2E : 96+ OBD-2 Civic DX Coupe
P2M : 96+ OBD-2 NZ Civic SOHC VTEC
P2T : 99+ OBD-? Civic Si Coupe
P5P : 97-00 OBD-2 Prelude Type-S (JDM ECU)
PBA : 97+ US Acura 1.6EL
PCT : 98+ JDM ITR / CTR
PCX : 99+ OBD-? S2000

richie
03-Aug-2008, 14:30
levantando muertos.... pero esta bueno...

kinetic
03-Aug-2008, 21:46
uno de los primeros threads de la seccion despues de que se cayo el foro.. :aaay:

crisaguilar
04-Aug-2008, 07:34
y muy bueno por cierto :ok: