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29-Mar-2008, 10:19 | #1 |
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TOBB Tunning o ECOTEK
Que opinan de este aparatito a diferencia de una ECUTEK:
Cobb Tuning Stage 1 Power Package AccessPort Subaru STI 04-07Model: AP-SUB-002 Cobb Tuning Stage 1 Power Package AccessPort Subaru STI 04-07 This is where to start your quest for additional power and response from the STI. Included is the highly regarded AccessPORT which is used to reprogram the factory engine computer, unlocking an additional 25 HP (power) and 40 lb-ft (torque) from a stock STI and increases boost from 14.5psi to approximately 16psi. Requires no tools or mechanical knowledge to install. The AccessPORT does all the work of programming the factory ECU for you, just simply plug it into the factory service diagnosis port located below the steering wheel. Follow the on-screen instructions and within 10 minutes you'll be out driving, enjoying your new found performance. Ecutek Reflashing is now available for your Subaru WRX, STI, turbo Legacy and Forester. Already have a reflash and need a retune? BRING IT TO VIVIDRACING!!! We can now reflash your:
Our team has tuned more ECUTEK's then any other in Arizona and nation wide. With the database of maps for all types of parts and combinations, we assure your car will be tuned right the first time. Now lets learn more about the ECUTEK system. You can also visit www.ecutek.comECU DeltaECU is EcuTek's ECU reprogramming software for the 1999 to 2004 model years of Subaru Impreza and Forrester Turbo. The software allows reprogramming of the original ECU, in-situ via the diagnostics port, along with serious features that allow accurate and successful mapping. What cars does DeltaECU support ? Two versions of DeltaECU are available, supporting two different Subaru ECU architectures. One version (Flash99) supports the 1999 and 2000 model years of cars. The second version (Flash2002) supports the 2001 and up model year of Impreza WRX and STI. How is the ECU reprogrammed ? To reprogram the ECU, the DeltaECU programming interface is simply plugged into the diagnostic socket of the car. Any of the ECUs listed above can then be reprogrammed in under 2 minutes ! Unlike other "chipping"; solutions, DeltaECU, requires no soldering and no physical access to the ECU - an altogether quicker, cleaner and more reliable method of tuning. Rather than spending time soldering and desoldering hair thin chip legs, the tuner's time can now be spent more productively, with less time spent soldering and more time actually improving mapping of the customer's car. Once an effective map has been produced for a particular combination of modifications, further identically mapped ECUs may be rapidly produced. This is extremely useful for companies who wish to package a premapped ECU with their exhaust manifolds or turbo/FMIC kits. Why Reprogram the Original ECU ?
Tuneable Parameters The following ECU parameters may be altered using DeltaECU:
Both ignition and fuelling maps may be viewed graphically to fast interpretation of map shape. This also allows errors to be quickly spotted. Live Map Access View Whilst testing the car, either on the road or dyno, access to fuelling, ignition and boost maps may be viewed in real time to show which parts of the map are being accessed by the ECU. DeltaECU will also colour the zones of the fuelling or ignition maps based on the knock correction and lambda values retrieved from the car under test. This allows the tuner to quickly see which areas of the map require attention. Now that you see what the ECUTEK system is and how it reprograms your stock ECU, understand that there are other softwares available. Some may be less expensive, and some maybe to good to be true. But the ECUTEK system is designed specifically for your Subaru. One thing to remember when purchasing a reflash for your ECU that these are licenses, and only the company that flashed your car can reflash and tune your vehicle. So you want to choose an experienced company that is here to stay, Vivid Racing. One falsehood that you might have heard is that the reflash is NOT as good as a stand alone or piggyback unit. This is not true as some of the strongest cars are ECUTEK tuned and we have the cars to prove it. So whether you have a brand new car and want some extra pep, or you have a full built JDM engine with more parts then you need and want 400 wheel horsepower, ECUTEK can do it. Another thing to keep in mind is that results will vary. We can take a bone stock car and tune it for an additional no hassle 40 horsepower. Or we can take your modified car from a simple stage 1 to full blown stage 4 and see various results. In the end because of the direct reprogramming, there is NO need for wasted money on dyno tuning at over priced facilities. The maps are tested and pruven and are simply flashed to your ECU and your ready to go. Unlike other shops when it comes time to get your car flashed, customer service and support is first. Our goal is to maximize the driveability and power of your vehicle. We charge a one time fee to flash your ECU according to the mods on your car. If you are local and need tuning, we set you up with our tuning service and can arrange an appointment on our All Wheel Drive Mustang Dyno. If you are mail ordering the reflash you have two options.
If you are ready to purchase a ECUTEK reflash for your Subaru vehicle and want it done right by experienced personnel, then click and order NOW!!! Core Charge is $500. When you send the ECU back we credit you $475 back to your card. Your purchase of this product signifies you understand our core exchange policy and procedure. CORE CHARGE IS NOT AVAILABLE for 2005 and up STI, Legacy, Forester. Can only be flashed directly to the ECU. ***Vivid Racing offers ECUTEK tuning. We can REFLASH your stock ECU on or off the dyno according to your modifications to gain an extra 40 Wheel Horsepower!!! Al parecer el TOBB es para cualquier OBDII y la otra supositoriamente si le hace a un STI version chapinlandia EJ207.
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29-Mar-2008, 13:21 | #2 |
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la COBB (aksjdklasd) no le hace a tu carro, y la ecutek tampoco...al menos quien te la venda te diga que el mapping es para ej207 de lo contrario no te va a servir...al menos que la compres en australia donde todos los stis son 2.0
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29-Mar-2008, 13:23 | #3 |
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se me olvido, el ecutek que vos pusiste es un reflash, osea tenes que mandar tu ECU, la que tenes que buscar es EASYECU que vale 750$ mas 150$ de mapas
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01-Apr-2008, 08:08 | #4 | |
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I-Speed USA EasyECU I-Speed USA's EasyECU for the 2001 to 2007 model years of the Subaru Impreza WRX, STi, Forester XT, Legacy GTand Outback models (USDM, JDM and European models included). With a combined 20 years of programming experience, we're able to calibrate your ECU to the highest level of precision while fully maintaining the safety features of the OEM ECU. Through accurate calibration of the advanced ignition map tables, closed/open loop fuel map tables, and dynamic boost map tables, we're able to produce extremely reliable yet powerful reprogrammed ECU's. Not only do we offer world renown base maps, but we are able to customize an ECU to your specific vehicle's modifications and personal requirements. I-Speed USA EasyECU - In Depth Our EasyECU system offers more than just a map for your specific setup, but a solution for your daily driver/track defender. While not only being able to adjust to various operating conditions and driving styles, our EasyECU system can adapt quickly and effectively to a multitude of weather conditions. Whether it is freezing mountain chills, the beating sun on the dry desert or drastic elevation changes, the EasyECU can adapt accordingly. All you need to do is "Step On The Gas". |
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01-Apr-2008, 09:13 | #5 |
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ahi estamos ya!!!!
pilas pues averiguemos y pedimos las 2 de una vez!!!! a mi me uuuuurgeee! |
01-Apr-2008, 09:14 | #6 |
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01-Apr-2008, 09:23 | #7 |
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01-Apr-2008, 09:53 | #8 |
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solo marita
mira el del escaner es como un reflash y no es muy de fiar a mi forma de ver ahora el ecutec si esta vergon ese debeiras pedir
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01-Apr-2008, 09:58 | #9 | |
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El cable lo chafeamos o no los prestamos y se instala en compus diferentes para cada quien lo trabaje |
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01-Apr-2008, 10:22 | #10 | |
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1027462 aqui te dejo este link para que leas...es imposible hacer lo que queres aunque creeme me encantaria para no gastar tanto $$ |
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01-Apr-2008, 10:27 | #11 | |
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los dos son reflash manin...asi se trabajan todos los subarus ni siquiera stis con garrets gt30/35 usan ECUs aftermarket (hydra, utec et,) bueno la mayoria...casi todos los carros usan stock ECU |
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01-Apr-2008, 10:53 | #12 |
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lo decia por que se conecta al conector de servicio y por lo que decis bueno el que parece escaner solo baja el programa a la ecu y listo no podes hacer mas
ahora el ecutec pareciera que tenes un software que modificas y luego vos descargas el programa que has modificado eso me imagine peor con lo que pusisite si ecutec te envia el archivo del reflash y solo lo descargas la misma shit solo que con una laptop para que putas no creo que no hallan jakeado el archivo del flash y poder desde otro editor modificar. investigen que asi que chiste tienen los 1000 dolares mejor no hago nada ya vieron si hay algun soft para modificar mapas y toda la onda asi tipo hondata o crome????? |
01-Apr-2008, 11:03 | #13 |
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USER FLASHABLE software is now available by the pioneers of Subaru tuning (ECUTeK) for Throttle-By-Wire Subaru's...
ECUTeK "Easy ECU" includes more features and flexibility than COBB Access Port: - Full Data Logging - Email revised maps - Road Dyno - OBD-II Code Read - ECU Reset - Idle Adjustment - Live Dashboard - Allows flash by Dealer - Flashes over COBB AP eso es lo que venden.. obviamente al precio 750$ le tenes que quitar el valor del primer mapa que te dan 150$ estas comprando todo eso por 600$ realmente solo el delta dash sale en 500$ |
01-Apr-2008, 11:43 | #14 |
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ala verga que caro y no hace ni mierda
hay que buscar en el underworld no creo que la mara no este jakeando eso por eso I LOVE MY HONDA freeware software |
01-Apr-2008, 12:11 | #15 |
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hay open source, pero hay que tunear uno solo...y no creo que haya gente en guate que deje al centavo los subaru... o si?
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01-Apr-2008, 12:19 | #16 |
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alsfañldkjfañlsfjalsfjasfd mira tenes que meterte con otra mara por que aqui no pero de que hay hay.
deberias de ver como esta el dyno poowwwta mara pagando 6 horas para tunear hondas turbo con hondata y quedan seda seda que diferencia puede haber con un subaru si turbo = turbo, mezcla = mezcla en fin no creo que sea gran ciencia aparte hay que ver o hablar con mara de otros lugares para tunear como se debe sin ir tan lejos mira los guanacos que tienen ellos alla la nasa o que...... nada solo mara con huevos para tocar los carros en serio |
01-Apr-2008, 14:22 | #17 |
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d16z ya me contestaron los de i-speed
la cosa va asi.. si solo compramos dos sale en 1,000 dolares el easyECU que incluye: deltadash, easyECU y custom programing por internet! me dijo el cuate que si encontrabamos un 3ero nos puede mejorar el precio! |
01-Apr-2008, 19:31 | #18 |
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Ulugrun para ese precio y como dice criss no podes mover voz solo los mapas estamos fregados; mejor la TOBB que me parece que es lo mismo que el programa REVO que te lo graba en la ECU o un APEX sin tanto pedo.
Por que la EUTEC si te dejaba subir 3 mapas tuyos y mover todo: |
01-Apr-2008, 19:51 | #19 |
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utec provides more than enough control for you to destroy your engine
prefiero pagar para que me lo hagan ni aco del salva puede tunear esa mierda, es mas el me lo dijo utec es una basura... ellos TODOS estan usando ecutek es mas si tanto queres el flash, big al va a finales de mes a el salvador y me dijo que cobra como 500 dolares por el custom tune! siento de verdad decirte que ninguno de esos EM te va a servir pero asi es, ni cobb, ni utec (salvo la version australiana o europea, good time finding it!) nada que vendan en los usa te va a servir, salvo que sea de origen japones o europeo y que el proveedor tenga los oem maps del ej207 edm |
01-Apr-2008, 19:59 | #20 | |
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A con razon estas corriendo |
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01-Apr-2008, 22:52 | #21 |
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mira d16zturbostintegra etc etc
mejor dale verga al rex esa shit de subaru su madre mejor un b18 turbo y listo vergiando evos y subarus |
02-Apr-2008, 06:31 | #22 |
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Yo investigando por que siempre tube la duda de que se le podria hacer a un carro asi y ver que opciones halla, yo estoy feliz con mi CRX haciendolas de Schcumaher
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02-Apr-2008, 08:16 | #23 |
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4wd>2wd |
02-Apr-2008, 11:38 | #24 |
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02-Apr-2008, 12:40 | #25 |
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